楼主 - -2008/2/26 12:45:00
SD......奇怪我竟然会玛丽苏二维平面人物.而且那时候网络没有普及，没有大量同人耽美.所以真的只是单纯玛丽苏:我自己跟SD里各人物.当时貌似最喜欢流川和仙道.导致后来变腐女后一直不怎么喜欢他俩的CP,因为我自己要留着YY嘛
另外一个说起来还丢人,现在看到他绝对是不DJ的。当时一腔少女热忱就玛丽苏他和我自己了。汗。是看完TV三贱客后-小猪。
21 4L2008/2/26 22:07:00
其实我觉得所谓暗恋单恋都是玛丽苏,尤其是那种回去以后在自己日记里写,或者在网上求助的问他今天看了我一眼他是不是喜欢我之类的
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有事实依据的不算玛丽苏,玛丽苏要天马行空的编故事= =
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就是觉得那种都苏的不行,男人还没怎么着呢,自己在那边自HIGH到一个不行,一个眼神一个动作对她们来说都是故事和暗示,就是在情感看这些东西看怕了,才忍不住说,这才是最苏的苏
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我一边自我暗示，一边天马行空。OMG！！这种时候才发现我是多么的狗血
61 何为玛丽苏2008/2/27 17:32:00
73 orz2008/2/28 1:07:00
65 .= =2008-2-27 19:29:00
74 SAA2008/2/28 1:44:00
是说wiki上的解释娱乐到我了
原来还有这么多种的mary sue...
Frequent subtypes or sub-subtypes of perceived "Mary Sues" will be named on the fly using certain patterns. Two of the most common methods of doing this are listed below:
This subconcept of the larger "Mary Sue" concept comes in two common variations. The first is a character who is constantly depressed and has an excessively tragic past, frequently involving such things as child abuse, rape, or abandonment of some sort. She or he often feels guilt for something that happened in the past, even though it is usually not his or her fault, which gives his or her the ability to feel bad about something without having done anything wrong. Generally, if she or he doesn't commit romanticized suicide, then only the love or close friendship of one or more canon characters can convince her that she is not responsible for a tragic or horrific childhood or event that was obviously not of her making. The idea is that such backgrounds, if poorly handled, constitute an ill-advised attempt to gain sympathy from the reader. Examples of this are the character Jaenelle Angelline from the Black Jewels Trilogy by Anne Bishop and, to a lesser extent, the character of Honor Harrington.
The other version of the "Angsty Sue" subconcept involves a character who has a similarly tragic past, but rather than angsting about it, she or he seeks revenge for what's been done to his or her family/home village/civilization, etc. She or he is thrust into the spotlight of the story while doing so. The writer is seen as using his or her past not merely as a device to gain sympathy, but also to claim moral superiority and justification for his or her actions - often poorly. As such, this type of "Angsty Sue" rarely has any guilt at all - after all, she or he hasn't done anything 'wrong'.
Some authors make an extreme effort to avoid making their character into a "Mary Sue". The attempts or results of such attempts are sometimes referred to as "Anti-Sues". Given that the key difference between a well-developed, sympathetic character and a "Mary Sue" is often considered to be a lack of realistic faults, this generally involves making such characters extremely flawed. Some such attempts are seen as generally working - creating interesting, three-dimensional characters - though others are seen as being similarly over-the-top as the more stereotypical "Mary Sue".
"Anti-Sue" traits include physical unattractiveness, poorly handled mental illness (including sociopathy and psychopathy), noticeably lacking in power or competency relative to other characters, being generally disliked by others or never interacting with them, cowardice, and other unflattering characteristics. While characters who can arguably be described as "Anti-Sues" have proved popular in some fiction, especially in modern times (see anti-hero), at other times they may be poorly-received, perceived to be as bad or even worse than "Mary Sues" for their cliché nature or lack of sympathetic traits. A poorly-regarded "Anti-Sue" is viewed as merely another cliché stock character, or even simply an anti-hero variation of the "Sue" - especially if he or she still manages to take the spotlight away from the canon heroes.
The term "canon-Sue" (also written as canon!Sue) or "Possession Sue" is used to describe canon characters who are changed significantly from their original canon characterization and sometimes even divorced from their original context completely. Such characters are seen as having been heavily idealized to the point of being more of a stand-in for the author's wish fulfillment than being the original canon character.
Characters most frequently labeled "canon-Sues" often develop the typical associated over-the-top traits of a "Mary Sue" with little precedent or explanation, a process sometimes called "sueification." Some examples are the discoveries of tragic pasts and abilities superior to other canon characters, the elimination or romanticization of flaws, and being antagonized by characters disliked by the fan-author while befriended by canon characters liked by the author - regardless of how friendly or unfriendly they were before.
If the "canon-Sue" deviates enough from the original, it may be referred to jocularly as an act of "canon rape" - a term often used when a significant (and disliked) change has been made to the canon world or characters, such as when a former hero is vilified without explanation, a character who is unpopular in the canon but then receives a make-over and becomes popular, or a usually-chaste canon character is easily seduced by a fan-created "Mary Sue" character. Even in alternate universe stories where the premise ostensibly might involve examining how the story might play out differently if characters behaved differently, many readers criticize such changes as being too extreme.
A "canon Sue" may also refer to a character whose canon portrayal itself is seen as a "Mary Sue", rather than a character who has been altered in fan fiction. Typically, this refers to a character accused of being overly idealized or having other traits traditionally associated with fan fiction "Mary Sues", such as being "special" by having a gratuitously tragic past, unrealistic skills, or a seeming inability for the character to do wrong. Characters such as Wesley Crusher[1] and Amanda Rogers[1] in Star Trek: The Next Generation have been criticized as being "Mary Sues."
A male "Mary Sue" may be referred to as a "Gary Stu" [1], "Larry Stu" [2], or a "Marty Stu" [3]. References to male characters being a "Gary Stu" (or similar masculinized term) are less common than those to female "Mary Sues." They are generally identified as being much cooler, tougher, and sexier than the canon characters.
While Gary Stu can be interpreted as the male version of the perfect character, he will often display more extreme anti-hero traits than the typical Mary Sue, such as unfair burdens to bear and terrible childhoods. While anti-heroes have in recent times become increasingly more popular among fans (such as Wolverine and Jack Sparrow) the most notable qualities for a Mary Sue still persist - a Gary Stu manipulates the canon universe around him, and furthermore he lacks an individual personality - he is just another special snowflake.
This "Mary Sue" is intentionally created for a parody, usually aimed at readers who are familiar with the "Mary Sue" concept, and dislike said "Sues." Her vast repertoire of skills and lack of personality are emphasized in a humorous way and generally, one of two things happens in the story:
Note that the "original" Mary Sue from "A Trekkie's Tale" is in fact a Parody Sue.
Self-insertion is used to describe clear (and usually seen as indisputable) cases where the author has directly inserted a version of him- or herself into the story in lieu of a wholly or even partly original character, generally going so far as to use the same name or pseudonym for character and author. Though some author surrogates are common in fiction - such as Stephen King in his Dark Tower series, Philip Roth in several of his novels, or Lin Carter in his work - "self-inserts" in fan fiction are frequently seen as the most blatant of "Mary Sues", especially when heavily idealized. Some online fan fiction archives have an outright ban on any story which involves self-insertion. They are also sometimes frowned down upon on Role-playing communities, despite that some argue that it is easier for inexperienced or casual role-players to learn.
"Villain-Sue" usually replaces, befriends or is romantically involved with a major canon villain. Other traits include defeating canon characters with ease, secretly having redeeming qualities, having a tragic past that somehow excuses and justifies all her heinous deeds and letting the canon characters live when she could kill them — not out of bad qualities such as wanting to see them suffer, a desire to have all of them as prisoners at once, or wanting to gloat, but because she really isn't so evil others as might think. In fact, she may even secretly be a hero, or have hidden heroic tendencies. Good authors may be able to do this well and convincingly, but when written badly, this can be seen as a variant of the "Angsty Sue" seen above.
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我现在本命之前的都苏过
现在想想自己那时候的幻想真TM狗血+言情
饭上现在这个之后就不苏了 而且腐了
他很帅的时候我也会嚷嚷苏了苏了
可自己知道还是苏不起来 因为幻想无能了
除了偶尔很帅之外 他还真不是我的理想型
我已经很久没有玛丽苏了
偶尔苏也是幻想现实中不存在的自己想出来的人
幻想的最多的就是一个帅大款死活要让我当老婆
结婚后完全不干涉我的自由
有他养着我天天宅在家上网HC儿子哪儿也不去
不用生孩子 H也随我高兴
这也不算玛丽苏是吧 只是对一种生活的向往吧