米国大統領支持同性婚姻

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81Why发表于:2012/5/11 1:32:00

Gay marriage, Obama and the fierce urgency of now: Why did he do it this week?

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Walter Shapiro's Yahoo! News column examines what we know about the character and personalities of the 2012 candidates. Shapiro, who is covering his ninth presidential campaign, is also a special correspondent for the New Republic.
Even now, during the closing months of his first term, Barack Obama remains a curiously elusive political leader. That is why the abrupt conclusion to his evolution on gay marriage, announced Wednesday in an interview with ABC’s Robin Roberts, is one of the most fascinating moments in his presidency. Glib theories about Obama’s often-cautious approach to the presidency, especially in an election year, have to be revamped in light of his sudden endorsement of gay marriage.

There is a temptation to view the turnabout solely in electoral terms. Obama himself said that the politics of same-sex marriage “may hurt me.” But perhaps the president made the calculation that he was willing to risk the loss of a fraction of socially conservative swing voters in states like Ohio in order to guarantee the enthusiasm of his top fundraisers. (A Washington Post analysis found that almost 20 percent of Obama’s bundlers have publicly revealed that they are gay). Maybe there is even private Obama polling indicating that November turnout among voters in the millennial generation is apt to be higher if the president took a firm position on gay marriage.

Such political narrowcasting misses an essential truth about Obama: his pride and his fear of embarrassment. Joe Biden, by offering an emotional response to the gay-marriage question Sunday on “Meet the Press,” left Obama looking like the Cowardly Lion unable to find his heart until after the election. For Obama to keep mulling the issue as if he were taking a private course in Talmudic Studies would make the president seem faintly ridiculous.

Even if the gay-marriage issue was seen as a dangerous distraction by Obama’s reelection campaign, all the president’s handlers could not wish it away. Whether it was the awkward necessity of writing evasive language for the gay marriage plank in the Democratic platform or seeing his campaign surrogates constantly grilled on the question, Obama undoubtedly knew that his room for maneuver was constrained. So the president, after 72 hours of reflection, did the right thing.

Both as an African American and as the nation’s first president who grew up after the climactic days of the civil-rights movement, Obama undoubtedly has wondered how he would have reacted if he had found himself on the frontlines of that transcendent moral issue. Obviously, no one is opposing gay marriages with dogs, fire hoses and billy clubs. But this issue is the closest proxy that 21st-century America has to offer to the which-side-are-you-on struggles of the 1960s. In moral terms, it is quite possible that Obama could not personally endure further equivocation.

In making his decision to walk down the aisle with gay marriage, Obama underscored his awareness that poll-tested politics can only carry you so far in the Oval Office, even in an election year. During Saturday’s campaign kick-off rally in Columbus, Ohio, Michelle Obama told the crowd that the problems that reach the president’s desk “are the ones with no clear solutions--the judgment calls where the stakes are so high and there is no margin for error.” The first lady may have been alluding to the raid that killed Osama Bin Laden, but the same principle could be extended to the president’s decision about his public support for gay marriage.

In November 2003, the highest court in Massachusetts ruled that gay marriage was legal based on the state constitution. The Massachusetts governor at the time--who by a weird twist of fate was Mitt Romney--vehemently opposed the decision by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. Massachusetts Senator John Kerry’s struggle to defeat George W. Bush in the 2004 election was complicated by the liberal high court decision in his home state, even though he distanced himself from the ruling.

During the 2004 campaign, it would have seemed ludicrous and embarrassingly naive to imagine that a future president--especially one facing a difficult reelection campaign--would endorse gay marriage. Maybe in 2028, but certainly not in 2012. But such is the engine of social change, slowly chugging up the hill with I-think-I-can determination and then dramatically accelerating once it is over the crest. With an unequivocal statement by Obama on Wednesday, gay marriage suddenly became codified as--at minimum--a bedrock principle of the Democratic Party.

When political handicappers rattle off the hard-to-predict variables that will shape the election and the challenges of the presidency in 2013, they invariably point to the economy and global threats such as the Iranian nuclear program. But such armchair attempts at prophecy are often too cautious and the horizon too limited. Sometimes, it is as simple as a president confronted with a moral choice--and his awareness that the time for temporizing and hand wringing is over.

http://news.yahoo.com/gay-marriage--obama-and-the-fierce-urgency-of-now--why-did-he-do-it-this-week-.html

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/obama-sex-marriage-legal-16312940?tab=9482931&section=4765066


82= =发表于:2012/5/11 1:47:00

凹疤蚂支不支持关我屁事

反正我就ANTI钙结婚合法化

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gay如果婚姻合法化

也少点骗婚的不是么= =

讨厌gay的人应该支持他们结婚才对

省的出来祸害别人了


83= =发表于:2012/5/11 7:25:00

自古異性婚就合法是吧,但你看是異性恋的出来骗婚的祸害了别人的,不是仍不少嘛XD

骗不骗婚的,和是不是同性恋的,有必然关系么= =


84= =发表于:2012/5/11 11:35:00

= =2012-5-10 9:54:00
啊,为什么一进这贴,我的鼠标小脑袋上就长了个问号
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+1
大丈夫大丈夫

85= =发表于:2012/5/11 17:34:00

自古異性婚就合法是吧,但你看是異性恋的出来骗婚的祸害了别人的,不是仍不少嘛XD

骗不骗婚的,和是不是同性恋的,有必然关系么= =

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这明显是两个问题,异性恋也存在骗婚现象跟同性恋婚姻合法化能减少同性恋骗婚有冲突吗?

你这种说法就像是反正我们吃什么都有毒,生病跟有没吃到地沟油没有必然关系,所以我们就不用去杜绝地沟油了


86= =发表于:2012/5/11 17:50:00

有个疑问这帖子干嘛各式各样新闻贴了一堆?不是都大同小异在讲同样的东西么又不是地震那会儿各种实时新闻动态每个都贴贴,还是LZ其实是想讨论米大选?

87= =发表于:2012/5/11 18:09:00

有个疑问这帖子干嘛各式各样新闻贴了一堆?不是都大同小异在讲同样的东西么又不是地震那会儿各种实时新闻动态每个都贴贴,还是LZ其实是想讨论米大选?

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同不明白LZ的意图……到底是要讨论同性婚姻还是讨论米国大选……那句微妙的“XQ自然有人能投票”是说不能投票的也不让看热闹闲聊?囧


88= =发表于:2012/5/11 23:09:00

不明白意图那就都讨论好啦

LS们讨论同性婚姻或讨论米国大选的都有啊


89= =发表于:2012/5/11 23:15:00

自古異性婚就合法是吧,但你看是異性恋的出来骗婚的祸害了别人的,不是仍不少嘛XD

骗不骗婚的,和是不是同性恋的,有必然关系么= =

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这明显是两个问题,异性恋也存在骗婚现象跟同性恋婚姻合法化能减少同性恋骗婚有冲突吗?

你这种说法就像是反正我们吃什么都有毒,生病跟有没吃到地沟油没有必然关系,所以我们就不用去杜绝地沟油了

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你LS的意思是不管同性恋异性恋都有骗婚的,大家彼此彼此吧

90- -发表于:2012/5/11 23:16:00

= =2012-5-11 17:34:00

自古異性婚就合法是吧,但你看是異性恋的出来骗婚的祸害了别人的,不是仍不少嘛XD

骗不骗婚的,和是不是同性恋的,有必然关系么= =

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这明显是两个问题,异性恋也存在骗婚现象跟同性恋婚姻合法化能减少同性恋骗婚有冲突吗?

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LS的"异性恋也存在骗婚现象"不就证明你LS的"骗不骗婚的,和是不是同性恋的,有必然关系么= ="XD


91= =发表于:2012/5/11 23:32:00

挺好

92- -发表于:2012/5/12 0:14:00

我是90L和89L握手!
这L有不支持同性恋同性婚的当然可以,这是个人自由
但现实是同性恋者和异性恋者都有骗婚事件
而异性恋者古早就能合法结婚了,合法结婚防止了减少了异性恋者的骗婚事件吗?
所以,看到有人拿让同性恋者能合法结婚来防止来减少同性恋者的骗婚事件,看到这种其实根本是在骗自己的逻辑,真的很。。。
减少异性恋者同性恋者的骗婚事件,最重要是自己睁大眼看清楚对方吧
现在专找富二代官二代骗钱求官的骗婚事件表太多,骗婚的人根本不在乎被骗的是同性恋者或异性恋者

93= =发表于:2012/5/12 0:32:00

因是同性恋骗人结婚的

比是异性恋骗钱骗婚的

少太多了吧


94= =发表于:2012/5/12 0:39:00

XQ的传统就是只要不黑不掐流量第一正楼歪楼请便

95= =发表于:2012/5/12 2:12:00

如果有位同性戀不是為了騙財或騙其他,單純為了掩蓋他(或她)是同性戀的事實而向一位異性騙婚

那麼就算同性婚合法N年了,他(或她)就會出櫃去和同性伴侶結婚公開他(或她)自己的性向嗎?

所以同性婚合法,完全不會減少想和異性結婚以不公開自己性向的騙婚

同性婚=公開自己性向


96= =发表于:2012/5/12 2:33:00

现在专找富二代官二代骗钱求官的骗婚事件表太多,骗婚的人根本不在乎被骗的是同性恋者或异性恋者
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多能多到哪去
而且大多是舆论洗出来的
中国社会就像个金字塔
越往上人越少,处于塔尖的那些富二代官二代还是极少的


97= =发表于:2012/5/12 3:09:00

嗯,处于塔尖的那些富二代官二代还是极少的

穷人却爱打肿脸充胖子炫富的表太多好了吧

骗人婚的会去想什么处于塔尖不塔尖的么?

只有一万的,想骗有百万的婚

只有十万的,想骗有千万的婚

只要比自家富百倍

官比自家的高十倍

就是骗人婚的人们眼中的富二代官二代

小心为上

正楼

关键是

同性能结婚,不能防止想瞒父母家人社会,根本不可能去和同性结婚的同性恋者的骗婚


98= =发表于:2012/5/12 12:30:00

interesting

992012/06/06发表于:2012/6/7 0:28:00

Majority of Americans support legalizing same-sex marriage, poll shows


100= =发表于:2012/6/7 0:30:00

A majority of Americans — 54% — say same-sex marriages should be legally recognized, while 42% are opposed, according to a CNN/ORC International Survey released Wednesday.

The poll showed a sharp partisan divide on the issue, with seven in 10 Democrats as well as six in 10 independent voters saying same-sex marriages should be legal, and 72% of Republicans opposed.

President Barack Obama announced his support for same-sex marriage in an ABC News interview in early May, but Mitt Romney says he does not support gay marriage or civil unions.

The poll results come the day after the Ninth U.S. Circuit Appeals Court in San Francisco declined to revisit its earlier decision that ruled California's Proposition 8 unconstitutional and said gay and lesbian couples could marry.

The poll also found that the number of Americans who say they know somebody who is gay has jumped from 49% in 2010 to 60% now.

The CNN poll was conducted by ORC International from May 29-31, with 1,009 adults nationwide questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points, with a sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points for registered voters.


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